By selecting the box below, you will be brought to Panopto—to view a lecture moderated by myself with renowned artists Peter Saul and Sally Saul. This lecture took place at The State University of New York at New Paltz in September of 2023.

I want to express my sincere gratitude to the director of the Michael Werner Gallery, New York, Birte Kleeman. Thank you for your unwavering dedication in assisting with the organization of this talk. Your commitment to the arts community is commendable. I would also like to extend the largest thanks to the generosity of Peter and Sally Saul. Without your kindness and willingness to speak on your practices, this discussion would be impossible!